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this cunts that are think they are inteligence. i am start alredy and some other estrangers was join in. Unfortunately they was not like my coments and delete all of thems. now you must to be a bloger for make the coments, becase they are so scare. I'm think they are jealousy because I am a clever but not a fuck boring student like thems. Anyway, is not mater, because I was save the web page and am make a copy below. Mates, if you are like to make the coment, you are know where for go!!
"Things in themselves, appearances, noumena, and phenomena, Jessica Leech" 13 Comments -
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jonny said...A quote from Ramsey"We could always cheat a theory of our voluntary actions. i.e. the comlpete statement of our nature (the laws by which we would react to any stimulus) must be such that we couldn't understand it and spite it. Therefore we cannot understand our own nature."I don't understand what noumena are, but if Ramsey's argument is correct, would this mean that there can be no noumenal self? Or perhaps that the noumenal self is necessarily non identical with the self in its self?
4:25 PM
Jess said...That is my idea I think, though not necessarily the same motivation. We can't know anything (much) about the noumenal self by definition - it is just something that we posit as grounding the phenomenal self. There are arguments elsewhere to show that 'the self proper' cannot be the noumenal self. But my argument against the two distinctions being co-extensive leaves room for the possibility that this 'self in itself' is not the noumenal self. So there is somewhere we can locate the real self, that does not require it to be phenomenal, noumenal or empirical.There is of course the point that we can't know anything about a thing in itself, and hence we can't know anything about a self in itself. We can only have knowledge of such things as they appear. This doesn't mean we can't understand anything about our own nature though. We can understand a lot by looking at these appearances, and the conditions of the possibility of our experience being as it is. For example, we can find out that the real self is a thing in itself...
6:25 PM
Jonny said...I take Hume to be correct when he says there is no experience of the self. In other words the self is not an object of experience. If there is no noumenal self, no appearance of self, and no phenomenal self, could it not be that there is no self in itself either?
9:54 PM
Gianluca Francetti, Milano said...
I'm agree with you Jessica. But what means noumena? is a kind of disease, when you are stay in the rains to long, no?
1:13 PM
Bobs Wheezer said...Another quote from Ramsey:"Get the fuck out of my kitchen you useless fucking student fuckers".
1:14 PM
Prof. edmund tigalde, University of Arkansas said...Alvaro Jimanez, in his seminal work "Volition, Self Will and the Permeation of the Noumenal Self", argued that in fact the real self can only be located in conjectural terms. Nothing is known of the self, except that which is filtered through the semi-holisic filter of a liberal framework for understanding post-Franciscan thought. Granted, that leaves little room for Nadmare's "roundabout" theory, an allegorical and somewhat naive reference to the libertarian pursuit of tautological empiricism, but I still believe that Jiminez's central posit, that all belief is grounded in hypothetical dictat, is a valid one.
1:28 PM
Prof. edmund tigalde, University of Arkansas said...I forgot to capitalize my name. Please accept my sincerest apologies.
1:29 PM
Prof. edmund tigalde, University of Arkansas said...
Oh fuck, I've done it again.
1:30 PM
Gianluca Francetti, Milano said...
Is the same Alvaro Jiminez that was arrest in Tijuana for wank a pupy in the cinema?
1:31 PM
Prof. Edmund Tigalde, University of Arkansas said...The very same, Francetti.
1:31 PM
Yodit Berekat, Hounslow said...I come from Eritrea, where puppy-wanking is a time honoured tradition, celebrating the transition from boyhood to adultery. Are you seriously trying to tell me that this is a criminal offence?
1:34 PM
Marek Logan said...
Can we please return this conversation back to the matter in hand. As a philosophy undergraduate at King's College London I am extremely interested in the debate which Ms Leech has initiated, and do not wish to see it degraded in this manner.
1:39 PM
Marek Logan said...Then again, what do I know? I once spent several years walking backwards through the streets of Northampton, occasionally pausing to strike the ground beneath me with a stretch of aluminium piping. It was funny and I'm an intellectual.
1:43 PM
Leonardo Apparicio Fijo Garcia said ...While we are prepared to tolerate the wanking of small animals in the privacy of one's home, we are resolute in our belief that such overt displays of outward affection should not take place in a public arena, where young children may be frollicking, such as football stadia, roller-discos or cinemas. This was Professor Jiminez's crime and for this he was punished accordingly.
Superintendent Leonardo Apparico Fijo Garcia,
Chief of Police,
Municipality of Tijuana,
Baja California,
Mexico.
Alvaro Jiminez said ...I would just like to put a stop to all this terrible slander and defamation that is taking place on these pages. I am a respected academic and scholar. Please understand that this vicious rumour-mongering could cause profound and irreversible damage to my career and reputation. So, for the record, I would like to make it absolutely clear that I never argued that the self can only be located in conjectural terms. I was talking allegorically and in fact referring to the belief that all will is willful unless one has, in fact, unwilled it. Something like that anyway. Right, must go, the puppy's barking.
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